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Bill Janovitz (Buffalo Tom) speaks with Joe Pernice (Pernice Brothers) on the Talkhouse podcast

This week Chat podcast we have two incredible singer-songwriters who came from the same fertile scene of the late ’80s and early ’90s, and are still doing it well all these years later: Joe Pernice and Bill Janovitz.

Joe Pernice first came to prominence in the pop country group Scud Mountain Boys, whose home-recorded songs landed them a contract with Sub Pop in the mid-1990s. The Scuds didn’t exist very long , but their end was the beginning of the Pernice Brothers, Joe’s longtime band that continues to release excellent, often melancholic songs. The Pernice Brothers’ latest album – and besides, he’s really the only constant member at this point – is called Who will you believe, and it stands out with its incredibly durable catalog. In addition to writing and performing songs, Pernice wrote a great novel some time ago called It feels so good when I stop, and he even had a short stint writing for television. But for now, he’s focusing on music. Discover “December in His Eyes” by Who will you believe.

The other half of today’s conversation, Bill Janovitz, has been the lead singer and guitarist for the band Buffalo Tom since their inception in 1986, and while there have been quieter periods there, they have steadily released records, including the new Jumping rope, which comes out May 31. Buffalo Tom hails from the same incredible Boston/Amherst music scene that gave birth to Pernice Brothers, Pixies, Dinosaur Jr., Sebadoh and many more, and these guys dive straight into the memories of those fertile days. In addition to making music, Janovitz is also a rock historian, having written the complete Leon Russell book in recent years, as well as a volume on the Rolling Stones. His next book is about The Cars, which these guys also talk about in this conversation. Check out “Helmet” from the upcoming album Jumping rope here.

Like I said, these guys dive back into the Boston days, talking about mutual friends and collaborators like J Mascis and David Berman of Silver Jews. They also try to remember their first encounters, one of which involves Pernice being a bit obnoxious, and they talk about selecting songs for records – and how they never know what songs people are going to react. Appreciate.

0:00 – Introduction
2:46 – Start of chat
7:37 – Joe’s legendary cousin
12:15 p.m. – Joe leaves college and has “a slight nervous breakdown”
6:20 p.m. – “When did you meet (David) Berman?”
11:58 p.m. – “My first album was made for $60. »
31:01 – Berman wants to hear Joe say the word “motherfucker”.
42:12 – Craft versus hack and writing for television and film

Thank you for listening to the Chat podcast and thanks to Joe Pernice and Bill Janovitz for chatting. If you like what you heard, please follow Talkhouse on your favorite podcast platform and be sure to check out all the great things Talkhouse.com has to offer. This episode was produced by Myron Kaplan, and the Talkhouse the theme is composed and performed by the Range. See you next time!

(Photo credit: left, Kelly Davidson; right, Colleen Nicholson; Edited by: Keenan Kush.)